Posts by Brokeback Watchtower

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Bethels all downsizing within a year?

by Formerbrother in

why is there a huge cull going on of all bethels around the world?.

about 80% cull within the next year?.

some have been in bethel for decades and will be sent packing, the 20% of bethelites who stay will have to do their own food, laundry and clean their flat.

Brokeback Watchtower

What are all these exbethelites all around the world going to do? They have no money no qualifications and have been paying no tax or national insurance contributions.
How will they cope kicked out into the street like garbage?

I'm sure most will be reduced to a state of poverty with virtually no help from the WT corporation, many will have their hopes dashed and will spread discontent through out JW world where ever they land eroding loyalty and shrinking contribution even further. A snowball effect gather momentum and size with a big crash at the end.

Add this to all the information available on the internet exposing them a frauds and showing where the money went on lawsuits and bad business practices. Many even there at Bethel will start to do more research to find out their possible fate as worry prompts them to look elsewhere for instead of to the Governing Body to find answers heating up things right there in the center of the spiritual paradise.

This situation is starting to look very dangerous as more and more are seeing the man behind the curtain so to speak and are finding things a little overwhelming because of the level out right fraud among the worshipped Governing Body.

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Gerrit Losch Hypocritical: "Let Your Light Shine" Talk Given After His Refusal To Let His Light Shine Before Caesar In A Court Room

by Brokeback Watchtower in

losch's refusal to appear in court when subpeona'd to give testimony before a judge over his involvement in child abuse cover up and endangerment lawsuit .

i think such conduct should take away his freeness of speech and label him as a supreme hypocrite for giving such a talk about letting one light shine when he seems to be afraid to let his light shine in a court of law.

this man's hypocrisy knows no limits, and is extremely shameful.

Brokeback Watchtower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJJ1TwC-upE

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Bethel "Vow of Poverty" documents scanned.

by What-A-Coincidence in

jw
friends

vow of poverty scanned from 2002 documents.

i believe these are the latest ones unless someone has a newer one.

i posted these in another thread but i thought it deserved its own.. ocrd with 98% accuracy.... initial cover page 1 of 4. vow of obedience and povertyto the.

Brokeback Watchtower

I wonder if we compare the catholic vow of poverty with the JW corporation vow of poverty we might find some legal problems for the WT being that it is basically illegal to require signing of such a document to a corporation charitable or otherwise.

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Is it "volunteering" or is it "slavery" or something else?

by Scully in

the wts depends almost exclusively on a volunteer labor force.

its members volunteer their time, goods and services for the benefit and financial gain of the wts.

the "carrot" that drives this volunteerism is god's favour, and ostensibly the further recruitment of new volunteers who will also use their time, goods and services for the benefit and financial gain of the wts.. however, when the "carrot" turns out to be part of a con, and turns out to be completely false (as it often does in areas where human traffickers use the promise of "a better life" or "a better future" to recruit people) it is referred to as slavery.. people willingly sign up for what turns out to be slave labour, and often sign their children up for what turns out to be slave labour, on the false promise of bettering themselves.. now i know that bethelitestm, missionariestm and special pioneerstm receive a very modest monthly stipend that doesn't even cover personal care supplies, much less provide for clothing, transportation, etc., and that these folks rely heavily on the generosity of brotherstm and sisterstm.

Brokeback Watchtower

BTTT

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Gerrit Losch Hypocritical: "Let Your Light Shine" Talk Given After His Refusal To Let His Light Shine Before Caesar In A Court Room

by Brokeback Watchtower in

losch's refusal to appear in court when subpeona'd to give testimony before a judge over his involvement in child abuse cover up and endangerment lawsuit .

i think such conduct should take away his freeness of speech and label him as a supreme hypocrite for giving such a talk about letting one light shine when he seems to be afraid to let his light shine in a court of law.

this man's hypocrisy knows no limits, and is extremely shameful.

Brokeback Watchtower

Yep he sure blew a big chance to let his light shine in the court room of law where it really counts. Instead he failed miserably I mean here he is telling all his followers to be kind to their neighbor because this is one way to let your light shine, but when called before a court of law where he could show the Judge how they treat victims of child molestation by disfelloshipping them for slander or being a willing accomplice, and how much they care for pedo with extra ordinary neighbor love by helping pedos stay incognito to facilitate molesting more children inside the congregation. I mean he could have given an excellent witness for the Corporation and Jehovah and the whole shebang but instead he put his light under a basket to keep it hid from public view and cost the Corporation 13 million dollars in a child molestation lawsuit. I don't know where did he got the whole nine yards of guts to give such a hypocritical talk without a hint of remorse or shame in his face or voice on almost total auto pilot I wonder if he is on any type of mood suppressants?

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Gerrit Losch Hypocritical: "Let Your Light Shine" Talk Given After His Refusal To Let His Light Shine Before Caesar In A Court Room

by Brokeback Watchtower in

losch's refusal to appear in court when subpeona'd to give testimony before a judge over his involvement in child abuse cover up and endangerment lawsuit .

i think such conduct should take away his freeness of speech and label him as a supreme hypocrite for giving such a talk about letting one light shine when he seems to be afraid to let his light shine in a court of law.

this man's hypocrisy knows no limits, and is extremely shameful.

Brokeback Watchtower

Losch's refusal to appear in court when subpeona'd to give testimony before a judge over his involvement in child abuse cover up and endangerment lawsuit . I think such conduct should take away his freeness of speech and label him as a supreme hypocrite for giving such a talk about letting one light shine when he seems to be afraid to let his light shine in a court of law. This man's hypocrisy knows no limits, and is extremely shameful. Due to extreme compartmentalization can this man give such a hypocritical talk to his followers. He needs to see a psychiatrist I'm sure with this much denial going on in his cranium.

http://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODStudio/pub-jwban_201510_1_VIDEO

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Bro Loesch's talk.

by New day in

recently i heard through video link to our kh a talk by bro loesch where he attacked university study (again) but this time he prefaced his remarks by saying, and i quote, "the faithful slave does not forbid you to go to university.

" so this was a bad start as his following remarks made it clear that this was just a way of seeming reasonable while basically saying that we shouldn't do it.

he went on to use an illustration i think he has used before about a man with ocd who decided to kill himself.

Brokeback Watchtower

Martin Luther King was a smart man that had a plan to truly help the oppress of his race, he was courageous, and a powerful speaker, that made sense. He was for the uplifting of the down trodden and was able to put it in plan simple words that the uneducated could comprehend and get courage from and join him in the cause. Loesch on the other hand is a brain dead coward who won't appear in court lying to refuse a subpoena to testify and seeks to enslave the youth by denying them an education another word a real creep with bad motives and nothing worth listening to.

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Bro Loesch's talk.

by New day in

recently i heard through video link to our kh a talk by bro loesch where he attacked university study (again) but this time he prefaced his remarks by saying, and i quote, "the faithful slave does not forbid you to go to university.

" so this was a bad start as his following remarks made it clear that this was just a way of seeming reasonable while basically saying that we shouldn't do it.

he went on to use an illustration i think he has used before about a man with ocd who decided to kill himself.

Brokeback Watchtower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD9h55Mq-Ns

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What Would Happen If The Governing Body All Went On A Iboga Trip

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i have in the past micro dosed on iboga, shrooms, i can tell you that they work a lot of good brain activity and even generate new brain cells.

it also starts redirecting neuron to fire different pathways promotes good neuron health a kind inner brain massage which in the process brings up old forgotten memories stored ages ago and sorta reprocesses them in a new light of the present.

this stuff iboga is genuinely good but you have to treat it with respect and do you homework of finding out how to best use it.. have a look at some of these vids perhaps briefly skim them and then picture the gb doing the stuff and what would happen.

Brokeback Watchtower

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabernanthe_iboga

Legal status[edit]
Iboga is outlawed or restricted in Belgium, Poland, Denmark, Croatia, France,[6] Sweden, and Switzerland. In the United States Iboga is classified by the Controlled Substances Act on thelist of schedule I drugs.[1][2]
Non-profit organization Föreningen för hollistisk missbruksvård (ibogain.se) is trying to convince the Swedish government to start up clinical investigations of its anti-addictive properties, loosen up the prohibition law against ibogaine, and allow the creation of treatment facilities in Sweden.
Exportation of iboga from Gabon is illegal since the passage of a 1994 cultural protection law.[7]
Shredded bark of Tabernanthe iboga for consumption. Contains ibogaine.
Conservation status[edit]
While little data is available on the exploitation and existing habitat of the iboga plant, the destructive effects of harvesting and slow growth could have already severely damaged the wild iboga population.[8]
Patents and applications[edit]
Here is a selection of iboga patents and patent applications filed in the last decade[1]
US Patent or Application Number Title Owner/ Inventor Comment
Application 20050288375,published 29 December 2005 Method and composition for treating neurodegenerative disorders Myriad Genetics,Salt Lake City, UT US Claims ibogaine (and other compounds) used with an NSAID “for treating and preventing neurodegenerative disorders like Alzheimer's disease, dementia, mild cognitive impairment."
Application 20050222270 published 6 October 2005 and patent 5,958,919, issued 28 September 1999, and others Prolonged administration of NMDA antagonist drug and safener drug to create improved stable neural homeostasis Washington University, St.Louis, MO US Use of ibogaine to enhance safety in a technique to “ease problems such as addictions to illegal or pain-killing drugs, nicotine, or alcohol, compulsive or criminal behavioral problems, severe depression, obsessive-compulsive disorders, phobias, etc."
Patent 6,416,793,issued 9 July 2002 Formulations and use of controlled-release indolealkaloids BioResponse,LLC, Boulder, CO, US Ibogaine (and yohimbe) formulations with enhanced absorption by the body
Patent 6,348,456,issued 19 February 2002, and Application 20030153552,published 14 August 2003 Method of treating chemical dependency in mammals and a composition therefor Mash; Deborah C. (University of Miami professor)and co-inventors Claims noribogaine, a variant of ibogaine suitable for pharmaceuticals, and its use to treat addiction to “heroin, cocaine, alcohol, nicotine, amphetamine, methamphetamine, opium, methadone, hycodan, morphine and caffeine."
Patent 6,211,360, issued 3 April 2001 Ibogamine cogeners Albany Medical College (Albany,NY, US) and the University of Vermont (US). Ibogamine-derived compounds for treating drug addiction
Patent 5,616,575, issued 1 April 1997 Bioactive tricyclicibogaine analogs University of Minnesota, US and University of Miami, US Ibogamine-derived compounds for treating drug addiction
Documentary films about iboga[edit]
See also: List of films about ibogaine therapy
Iboga, les hommes du bois sacré (2002)
In this French-language film, Gilbert Kelner documents modern Bwiti practices and Babongo perspectives on iboga. Odisea broadcast a Spanish-dubbed version titled Los hombres de la madera ("The Men of the Wood").
Ibogaine: Rite of Passage (2004)
Directed by Ben Deloenen.[9] A 34-year-old heroin addict undergoes ibogaine treatment with Dr Martin Polanco at the Ibogaine Association, a clinic in Rosarito Mexico. Deloenen interviews people formerly addicted to heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamine, who share their perspectives about ibogaine treatment. In Gabon, a Babongo woman receives iboga root for her depressive malaise. Deloenen visually contrasts this Western, clinical use of ibogaine with the Bwiti use of iboga root bark, but emphasizes the Western context.
"Babongo" (2005)
In this episode (series 1, episode 4) of the English documentary series Tribe, presenter Bruce Parry ingests iboga during his time with the Babongo. BBC 2 aired the episode on 25 January 2005.[1

US Patent or Application Number	Title	Owner/ Inventor	Comment
Application 20050288375,published 29 December 2005	Method and composition for treating neurodegenerative disorders	Myriad Genetics,Salt Lake City, UT US	Claims ibogaine (and other compounds) used with an NSAID “for treating and preventing neurodegenerative disorders like Alzheimer's disease, dementia, mild cognitive impairment."
Application 20050222270 published 6 October 2005 and patent 5,958,919, issued 28 September 1999, and others	Prolonged administration of NMDA antagonist drug and safener drug to create improved stable neural homeostasis	Washington University, St.Louis, MO US	Use of ibogaine to enhance safety in a technique to “ease problems such as addictions to illegal or pain-killing drugs, nicotine, or alcohol, compulsive or criminal behavioral problems, severe depression, obsessive-compulsive disorders, phobias, etc."
Patent 6,416,793,issued 9 July 2002	Formulations and use of controlled-release indolealkaloids	BioResponse,LLC, Boulder, CO, US	Ibogaine (and yohimbe) formulations with enhanced absorption by the body
Patent 6,348,456,issued 19 February 2002, and Application 20030153552,published 14 August 2003	Method of treating chemical dependency in mammals and a composition therefor	Mash; Deborah C. (University of Miami professor)and co-inventors	Claims noribogaine, a variant of ibogaine suitable for pharmaceuticals, and its use to treat addiction to “heroin, cocaine, alcohol, nicotine, amphetamine, methamphetamine, opium, methadone, hycodan, morphine and caffeine."
Patent 6,211,360, issued 3 April 2001	Ibogamine cogeners	Albany Medical College (Albany,NY, US) and the University of Vermont (US).	Ibogamine-derived compounds for treating drug addiction
Patent 5,616,575, issued 1 April 1997	Bioactive tricyclicibogaine analogs	University of Minnesota, US and University of Miami, US	Ibogamine-derived compounds for treating drug addiction

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What Would Happen If The Governing Body All Went On A Iboga Trip

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i have in the past micro dosed on iboga, shrooms, i can tell you that they work a lot of good brain activity and even generate new brain cells.

it also starts redirecting neuron to fire different pathways promotes good neuron health a kind inner brain massage which in the process brings up old forgotten memories stored ages ago and sorta reprocesses them in a new light of the present.

this stuff iboga is genuinely good but you have to treat it with respect and do you homework of finding out how to best use it.. have a look at some of these vids perhaps briefly skim them and then picture the gb doing the stuff and what would happen.

Brokeback Watchtower

You can get it shipped to Poland I'm sure they send it as a different plant.

Your right I need to stay on topic but first I wanted people to get some knowledge of the subject before speculating and hopefully some insights perhaps.

Me I think they would bring about great reforms because all old habits would be gone for say a couple of months until they form new ones and so I would like to imagine at that stage give them a second dose with micro dose back up to build up norbagaine which has a long half life because it is stored in the fat this will keep them flexible and get more neurons firing and therefore better ideas and better business decisions. I would also like to imagine that they hired a real good shaman that is administering the drug while invited to a warm welcoming stay at where ever head quarters is at that time another words well paid for his expert services to make sure they get well dosed out of their fantasy world.